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jaspermaths2
July 19, 2010, 11:13am Report to Moderator
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Flat betting, what must one do exactly to complete this challenge.
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rouletteguy
July 19, 2010, 12:19pm Report to Moderator
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from what I understand you must come out at a profit after first 100,000 spins and then an additional 900,000 spins. I believe you also place a deposit of 1000 to show seriousness (otherwise every one would try it in an attempt to get lucky for the prize) When it's proven over 1 million spins you get a hundred grand. My advice don't waste anyone's time and first check your system against the 3 million sticky post on this forum. And also remember that in "play mode" on some casino's it's geared for fun. There is also coders available on this forum to write a script of your system so you can set it on auto pilot for a long duration test.  I think 1 is Anadram
Good luck.
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watevadonk
February 26, 2012, 12:03pm Report to Moderator
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There is no possible way you could come out ahead unless its pure luck.

Every spin you are behind from the start. You can never have a edge or be ahead so how can you come out a skilled winner?

Any placed bet within a certain amount of spins you going to lose, fact, guarenteed and no matter how you play with the wheel and board the odds are still out of your favour any way. There is no winning strategy. The more spins, the worse odds of winning and profiting.

Its only a scam because they know over a million spins there is no statistcal way you can win, thats why they say $100,000.

Just trying to get you to deposit so they take all your cash.
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progambler
February 26, 2012, 11:46pm Report to Moderator

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Hello,

Every gaming Sites which are proposing a Roulette challenge,make the requisites so restrictive that none of them could be acceptable.
I don't know the rules for this particular challenge but I presume the conditions are similar.
Therefore all these guys can claim loud: no one has taken my challenge,no system can beat the roulette, and so on.
Personally,I am playing on line casinos for years and my system didn't fail so far.
On BetVoyager I'm playing about 10 000 spins a day.
Since I started to play on this casino,I've played about 14 millions spins.
So why don't I take a challenge?
I just don't want to disclose my system to the community,and all the challengers want to get access to my system.
Even if I agree with that,they all say they must code my system in their fucking tool and make a simulation over millions of spins.
How could I know they coded my system properly? How could I know they didn't code a losing system instead?
How could I know their RNG is fair?
As you know all casinos RNG game are rigged to hell.
Finally,I decided to propose my own rules to a challenger Mr Bluejay who own the VegasClick.com Site.
My rules are much more realistic and absolutely indisputable because no simulation is involved since all the rounds will be played on a real casino.  
So I wrote an e-mail to this guy ... and never got any answer.
Here is a copy of my mail:
"
Hello Mr Bluejay,

I would like to speak about your Roulette's challenge.
You are claiming loud that nobody ever accepted it.    
Actually as it is proposed,it is unacceptable and irrelevant.

1)I should start with a $5000 bankroll and the betting high limit is $5000.
This is ridiculously low.
This means I can only bet once on an even chance then I get busted.
So you aren't taking any risk.Any betting system is doomed to fail with such restrictions.

2)The initial challenge from Wizard of odds was to prove that ANY betting system will fail against the Roulette.
He didn't mention that you have to be able to play it at a real casino.(But I can)

3) You must hire a programmer to test out your system before accepting your challenge.(I have answered NO to this question in your form and got insultted)
As a professional programmer I don't need anyone's help ! (You should have forseen this case)
Anyway,I will never reveal my system to anyone !

So as you guessed I have a winning system,that I'm using for years on relevant Casinos.
I have made the simulation programs by myself,and I can assert you that the system wins over millions of spins.
But it must abide by the following rules:
Bankroll must be 10000 betting units.    
Casino stakes should be not less than 1 to 1000
In England most of the casinos (SmartLive,Ladbrokes,Casino888,William-Hill etc) are compliant to these rules.
And they are the places where I play.(I'm speaking about Live Platforms,not RNG,because all RNG are rigged as everyone knows)

Of course I can proof what I'm saying.
If you are interested in,I could send you a Bot  (Trial version) playing my system on BetVoyager or SmartLive casino.This is my own challenge !
They both have a guest mode where you can play for free (But on the real live plate-form),so no real money involved !
If it happens to lose in 3 months of play (or more) I will accept your statement "No system can beat the roulette"
Otherwise just advertise this on your site "This guy has got a good system indeed"

I don't sell any system,I am just a Bot coder.
I just would like to make you (and the Wizard) wondering "Could we be wrong?"

Looking forward to see a relevant challenge from you so that I could apply for it.

Regards        
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ADulay
February 27, 2012, 4:03am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from progambler
On BetVoyager I'm playing about 10 000 spins a day.
Since I started to play on this casino,I've played about 14 millions spins.


Do you get any problems from BetVoyager for the obvious use of a "bot" to play?

I would think that any casino software would catch a level of play like that and immediately stop any payments.

Or have I read the statement incorrectly?

1600 bets an HOUR should raise a few flags I would think.

AD

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progambler
February 27, 2012, 5:14am Report to Moderator

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@Adulay

Here are the Terms and conditions from BetVoyager:
As you can see there are no Bots considerations.
So when it is not explicitly forbidden you can assume it is allowed.
Actually,I didn't get any warning or payment declination since I'm playing

Terms & Conditions

By placing a bet, the player signals acceptance of all BetVoyager Casino’s rules and conditions.
1.The BetVoyager Online Casino operates within the limits of international legislation. The casino is open to all players over 18 years old who agree to observe the rules and conditions of BetVoyager.
2.All information submitted during player registration is strictly confidential and will not be shared with anyone, except when prescribed by the law.
3.The casino bears no responsibility for unforeseen software or hardware failure, as well as for contingency situations, concerning the functioning of software and hardware. If an error is discovered in software during gameplay that resulted in unusual or unearned winnings by the player, the casino may withhold such winnings. If the error resulted in losses by the player, the casino will compensate the player for such losses.
4.Bets can only be made within the range of minimum and maximum amounts.
5.The maximum amount a player is allowed to win over a 24-hour period (regardless of the calendar date) is restricted to €20,000.
6.In the case of controversial questions, players should address our support service. All decisions made by the casino’s management are final.
7.The casino reserves the right to exclude any player from BetVoyager Casino if the player is found to have been engaged in a dishonest act.
8.In most countries online gambling is not prohibited by law. However, it is the player’s responsibility to ensure that he is not violating any laws in the community in which he lives. Players bear the sole responsibility for observing the rules of their home countries concerning online gambling.

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Steve
February 27, 2012, 7:37am Report to Moderator

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progambler, I'm not sure if you are referring to my challenge or not. Mine is at http://www.genuinewinner.com/100k.html

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Therefore all these guys can claim loud: no one has taken my challenge,no system can beat the roulette, and so on.
Personally,I am playing on line casinos for years and my system didn't fail so far.


Funny that. Many players have taken the initial steps of the challenge and failed. I ask them to test 100k spins, and some have done it. Then I ask to test again with the same system exactly, and they fail.

Anyway challenge is open to anyone. So far everyone has wasted my time and theirs.
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progambler
February 27, 2012, 9:20am Report to Moderator

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Steve,

You didn't read my post.
I explained that I will not take any challenge as long as :
I must disclose my system.
I do not trust your RNG.Most of RNG games are rigged,I don't think yours will be an exception.
I do not trust any simulation program written outside me.
Anyway,nobody but me can code my system properly.

I will take your challenge when:

1) No simulation will be required to test the system.
Imagine I write a simulation program which will play 1 million spins and win,then I give it to you.
Would you trust it? So why would I trust your own simulation?
2) I will be allowed to play at a real casino,with a trusted RNG
There is only one: Betvoyager,where you can check that the sequence of numbers was generated BEFORE you bet.  
3) I code the system by myself in a Bot,which will play on his own,without manipulations.
4) I give you the Bot and you test it for 3 or 4 months.
The bot can play about 10 000 spins a day,so after 3 months 1 million spins will be achieved.
If after this time,the Bot is sill generating profits,I win the challenge.

Nobody has ever accepted my rules.Because all of you know this is the real way to prove a system can win.
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Steve
February 27, 2012, 10:17am Report to Moderator

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The obvious question after your post is why with your winnings have you not already coded the bot?

You dont want a simulation - you want real play which is fine.

Ok your rules are acceptable assuming thats the complete list. How do we proceed?
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progambler
February 27, 2012, 11:04am Report to Moderator

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Of course I already have the Bot,and using it.

What I propose is:

You open an account on BetVoyager.
There is a demo mode and a real money mode.
On the demo mode you start with a $1000 Bankroll.this is bonus money so no real money involved.
If you prefer to play in real mode we should deposit $1000 on your account.
When it's done I send you a 6 months trial for my Bot.
You install it on a computer.(The bot works with Windows 7 only)
Then you let him play the game at the rate you want.
The Bot can play about 400 spins per hours.
So 20h/days is 8000 spins/day
If you wish I could adapt the program to make it play a predetermined number of spins (that you could choose) and then stops.
I will add a special counter for the total numbers of spins played.
I think we could achieve 1 million spins in about 4 months.
At the end of each session the bot will automatically send me the results (number of spins played,Bankroll,earnings) so I will be able to follow the challenge progress.

What do you think?

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Steve
February 27, 2012, 12:03pm Report to Moderator

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Ok so you want me to set up an account. Consider it done.

Now please send me the bot.
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progambler
February 27, 2012, 8:19pm Report to Moderator

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I just need your e-mail address.
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Steve
February 27, 2012, 9:21pm Report to Moderator

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just use the forum's pm
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progambler
February 27, 2012, 9:36pm Report to Moderator

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Sorry,but I don't see how to send attached files this way
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Steve
February 27, 2012, 10:39pm Report to Moderator

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send it to:

nospam

@

genuinewinner

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