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Vincent
November 28, 2008, 9:18am Report to Moderator
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Any pictures of your "purchased" wheel?
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Steve
November 28, 2008, 9:29am Report to Moderator

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Mark...7:



Excellent condition and like I said, it is being tested for bias and drop zones to Australian casino standards.

I've tested my standard computer on it, mark's computers and forester's IQE6. I have already done videos of the tests. IQE6 and Mark's computer were basically just as poor as each other - virtually random, just as Barnett found too. but the results were poor for different reasons. My computer produced very good results and you can analyze the video of testing for yourself and verify even when the ball didnt get a direct hit, the ball landed at least close to the prediction. Kinda hard to fake such obvious peaks. The tests of mark's and forester's computers have my clicks visible and all the startup procedures so it can be verified I didnt deliberately poorly apply them or something.

Forester says he wins in australian casinos. My arse he does, not with his computers unless he's playing a wheel with heavy drop zone. He claimed the dealer "screamed" at him asking him to not look at his wheels because he was winning too much. Do I really believe that? Um, no. If he drew that kind of attention and was actually winning, he'd be out the door in a tick. The bottom line is what they sell is complete rubbish and can only possibly be effective on older wheels, or with strong drop zones. But I'm not interested in harming you two, forester and mark. Just work on  your own computers instead of lying about mine. Like I have said from the beginning, you guys have your computers all wrong. The only thing mark does right is polynomials, if thats what he uses. Forester, you NEED polynomials for many reasons. Even the smallest air pressure variation may make the ball move 90 degrees extra in 30 mins, then you can say bye-bye to accuracy because you have no way of knowing ball behavior. Mark I explained to you what my algorithms do once. I would honestly given you both the algorithms if you werent such morons. But forester your hardware wouldnt be able to support them anyway. I know I know, you think you know better. Yes you said zap was best before too. Mark you need to address a hardware problem before you can get anywhere near accurate enough. Based on your mobile prophecy version, it was clear you didnt do even close to required mods.

Also Ronjo, as per our phone conversation, i'll send you video of tests on the new wheel and you can apply the computer for yourself so see you get much the same results. You can also begin application from anywhere in the dvd. You can use 100 different spins to do the different diamond test. You can do whatever you want. I bet would honestly bet my life that an experienced player that conducted any testing they want could validate my claims. I also bet my life that the same tests with both foresters and mark's computers would show virtually random results.
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Vincent
November 28, 2008, 9:42am Report to Moderator
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Cool, video?
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Steve
November 28, 2008, 9:55am Report to Moderator

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As explained earlier, the videos done show elements that are trade secrets - they are for players only. I will do "public" videos later some time after I get the wheel back - it is being tested and I'll have a report about it pertaining to australian standards.
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Ronjo
November 28, 2008, 1:06pm Report to Moderator
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Hi Steve,

Did you recieve the documents?I cant wait to get started,

Ronjo.
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Steve
November 28, 2008, 3:46pm Report to Moderator

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Hi Ronjo, assuming it was your fax, all of the pages were completely blank. Not sure what the problem was - I'll email you a copy of what I received. I cant wait for you to get started too!
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Steve
November 28, 2008, 3:49pm Report to Moderator

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Also I've created a new website:

http://www.roulettewars.com

It's far from complete though. some of you may find it funny, but others may not. And Mark, dont fret about the photo, try to see the light side of it, although I still do think you are a bonafide nutcase.

And seriously guys, lighten up.
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coolpaddy
November 29, 2008, 2:42am Report to Moderator

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Hi Ronjo,

I'm looking forward to your evaluation of the systems. This time last year you were at the heart of the charity competition as adjudicator together with Lanky. I couldn't wish for two more upstanding and knowledgeable people to conduct a fair and unbiased trial on a system which has intrigued me and many others for so long. It's a shame that Lanky is unable to continue this time also, but I know that your skills and judgement will ensure a successful trial.


                                                                      Best regards
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Ronjo
November 29, 2008, 4:36am Report to Moderator
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Hi Steve,

Sorry about the delay,I have sent them again,let me know if they came through.

Best Regards,
Ronjo.
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Ronjo
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Hi Coolpaddy,

Great to hear from you again,yes I assure you and the rest of the roulette community,that I will try my best to do this evaluation to the best of my ability,and people that are close to me know that my integrity is important to me and always kept intact.

Best Regards,
Ronjo.
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lanky
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I assure you and the rest of the roulette community,that I will try my best to do this evaluation to the best of my ability,and people that are close to me know that my integrity is important to me and always kept intact.


Never ever been any doubt about that My Friend.

Your as straight up & down as they come Mate & You tell it like it is.

Your the right person for the evaluation My Mate.

God Bless You Cobber.

Lanky.
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Steve
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Hi Ronjo, fax received, thanks. Also you are probably going to find a lot of people will attack you. Actually probably not a lot of people, I mean people like Bago (Tony Duhamel) who spend day after day on forums attacking people to defend his ego. And of course mark howe and his many fake names. There are a few people that really have something to lose from all this. I suggest ignore any pressure they may put on you and just tell it like it is.

Whoever attacks you and your findings will probably accuse you of of being incompetent, or that I somehow used smoke and mirrors to fool you. For example, when it comes to the different diamond test, forester has already said I could just load the same numbers into the phone to cheat. Of course that's a stupid claim because you can do whatever test you want to show it's not the case. But anyway, what I want to do is send you a dvd with a TOP view of the wheel, so you can do the test with virtually any spin, rather than just one spin. The new wheel is being tested for possible bias etc and I should hear back this week. When I get the wheel back I'll do the top view video and send you everything.

Also Lanky, Iwonder seems to have fallen off the face of the planet. Please contact him and ask him to respond to me. Weeks have passed and he isnt responding to my emails. I called him at work, and just left a message, but I dont want to intrude by calling him at work. At the same time, I'm not going to put up with lack of response for weeks. It's not a problem if he hasn't had time to do any testing, but if he hasnt got time, then I want him to send the phone back so I can send to Ronjo. As I'm low on stock and someone else now has the phone you returned, I may need Iwonder's phone back to send to Ronjo.
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RGThawk
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Hello. I would just like to say I recent met steve. I live in NZ and flew over for a day to meet him and see a few things. My opinion of him is he is a very sincere guy. I am a good judge of character and no mans fool. I know I am not known here which rules out me being part of this challenge. Do not believe the stuff going on about steve. he really is a great guy. Ronjo I hope you get to meet him so you can tell the truth about everything. It really is quite bad how so many people have attempted to shoot him down. i wanted to say my part and wish i could say more. I look forward to seeing the outcome of all this but I know first hand what the truth all is.
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Steve
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Thanks hawk.

Ronjo & everyone: as Forester claims the ultimate test of a roulette computer's effectiveness is the different diamond test, it will be a major point to focus on for Ronjo. Lanky and Iwonder had concerns that doing such a test on my dvd may not be considered "independent". So as I stated above, I'll send Ronjo a dvd of spins where the wheel can be seen from the top. That way, he can choose any spin he wants to do the test. It only needs to be a spin where the ball doesnt do something like skip, but it would be very rare anyway.

No matter what tests Ronjo does, they will be criticized by people like Bago and Forester. So what we need to do is figure out possible ways I might be able to cheat in such a test, and close the possibilities so the validations are clearly authentic. In other words, I dont want the morons to have a leg to stand on or to have any potential excuse. Anyone have any additional suggestions?
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RGThawk
December 1, 2008, 3:16pm Report to Moderator
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NP steve!

I add that I thought I knew a few things about roulette, until I met you. Your knowledge of roulette is astounding. You once said people that know you well say you might be the worlds foremost expert in roulette. I believe it now I really do.

In the few hours I met with him he taught me more about patterns of wheels than I imagined would be possible. I do wish I could say more to others but steve really is the real deal. I hope you see everything I saw Ronjo.
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