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Posted by: papeter, April 14, 2008, 4:18am
Hi, am new to the forums and must say reading the quality of information
from the members seems to be very impressive. I'm really glad I joined.

Please forgive me if this question has already been addressed. I recently had a good 3 day run on
Golden Palace Casino on a system I was using. I was up approx $400 after 3 days
using a system betting on two columns.  Then on the 4th day I noticed that the results were going against
me big style. Whichever of the 2 columns I was using the other column always came up.
It just didn't make sense. The results did not appear to be random and it's as if there is some built in
program to counteract anyone having a good run of luck.  Covering 24 numbers on 2 columns
you have nearly 65% of the numbers working for you. But this SOB Casino wiped me out in a few minutes.


My question, are the wheels fixed for online Roulette? Does the system know if a punter is having
a run of good luck?  I am now very suspicious.  What about live roulette where no software generated
programme controls the results?  Would you recommend this -v- the online version?  


Thanks



Pete




Posted by: Switcher, April 14, 2008, 4:32am; Reply: 1
Hi Pete, my advice would be to stay well away from RNG online roulette - it is the same as the slot machines, you can do well for a while then get completely wiped out.

I personally do not know anyone who consistently wins on RNG - maybe it is rigged. All I know is with the real wheel you know where you are & if you want to play the real wheel online play at dublinbet.com which is one of the best around & is a real casino.

I am sure there are plenty more on this forum who will advise you against playing with online casinos using rng to 'steal' your money!

Switcher
Posted by: 1080 (Guest), April 14, 2008, 7:55am; Reply: 2
Yep well said switcher
Posted by: SNAPPER, April 14, 2008, 11:20pm; Reply: 3
Definately, it's worth driving anywhere in the country for a real wheel, than to be wiped out in yer own front room.   RNG will ALWAYS catch you out....
Posted by: VLSroulette, April 15, 2008, 1:19am; Reply: 4
Hello Papeter,

Here you have a section devoted to Live roulette:
http://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=liveroulette

Zero referral links allowed, which is the best for avoiding biased (i.e. referral link) inputs.

Hope this helps you.

Best regards,
Victor
Posted by: pureskill, April 27, 2008, 5:22pm; Reply: 5
RNG Wheels tend to be trouble for players like us. Never trust them as basically they are a computer working to win. I have been playing live roulette for about six months, with dublinbet and roulette tv, I have never wanted to be greedy but I spend about 1-2 hours a day playing both sites and make easy £70 a night, helps keep the bank manager happy.

Stay away from RNG!
Posted by: theneophyte, April 27, 2008, 5:32pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from pureskill
RNG Wheels tend to be trouble for players like us. Never trust them as basically they are a computer working to win. I have been playing live roulette for about six months, with dublinbet and roulette tv, I have never wanted to be greedy but I spend about 1-2 hours a day playing both sites and make easy £70 a night, helps keep the bank manager happy.

Stay away from RNG!


I would be interested to know what system you use?

I use roulette raid and am also using diarmaids system.
Posted by: theneophyte, April 27, 2008, 5:36pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from papeter
Hi, am new to the forums and must say reading the quality of information
from the members seems to be very impressive. I'm really glad I joined.

Please forgive me if this question has already been addressed. I recently had a good 3 day run on
Golden Palace Casino on a system I was using. I was up approx $400 after 3 days
using a system betting on two columns.  Then on the 4th day I noticed that the results were going against
me big style. Whichever of the 2 columns I was using the other column always came up.
It just didn't make sense. The results did not appear to be random and it's as if there is some built in
program to counteract anyone having a good run of luck.  Covering 24 numbers on 2 columns
you have nearly 65% of the numbers working for you. But this SOB Casino wiped me out in a few minutes.


My question, are the wheels fixed for online Roulette? Does the system know if a punter is having
a run of good luck?  I am now very suspicious.  What about live roulette where no software generated
programme controls the results?  Would you recommend this -v- the online version?  


Thanks



Pete






if you want to play the rng you should swap about the systems you use. i found that if i use any single system after a while it starts losing with very obviously unrandom results.

Posted by: pureskill, April 27, 2008, 5:43pm; Reply: 8
The system is very simple, to be honest I am not a fan of RR or others like it. What I have been doing to betting £10 on 1-30 so £300 in total and just going for it, I know it sounds a lot however as long as you don't hit 31-36 you are winning £60 a time, two spins £120 up and out I go. Of course you do hit 31-36 but I have found that you make it back up if you are careful and change the system when the time is right, min bal is always £1000.

Like I said before as soon as i hit £70 I am out!! Stay longer and I tend to lose and then have to build it up. I do use other systems that I have been working on, but I am still testing them.

Hope that helps, good luck
Posted by: Racinivan, April 27, 2008, 6:16pm; Reply: 9
I've heard that you have to clear your history and cache on your computer, like every 10 - 20 minutes or so when messing around with the online RNG's. I tried doing it in fun mode and it seemed to help. But, I'm not crazy enough to put it up to the test against the real dough.
Posted by: theneophyte, April 27, 2008, 8:04pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from pureskill
The system is very simple, to be honest I am not a fan of RR or others like it. What I have been doing to betting £10 on 1-30 so £300 in total and just going for it, I know it sounds a lot however as long as you don't hit 31-36 you are winning £60 a time, two spins £120 up and out I go. Of course you do hit 31-36 but I have found that you make it back up if you are careful and change the system when the time is right, min bal is always £1000.

Like I said before as soon as i hit £70 I am out!! Stay longer and I tend to lose and then have to build it up. I do use other systems that I have been working on, but I am still testing them.

Hope that helps, good luck


sounds nerve-racking!!! something I have noticed with rng is that the numbers 1 - 12 often come in runs - the longest iI have seen is 11! Might be useful to wait for a run of this type before betting, possibly, though I guess the next one could be 31 to 36. Have you ever tried changing to say leaving the top numbers uncovered or the numbers in the midde. Or perhaps tracking to see which numbers are coming up more often so you can concentrate your betting there?
Posted by: pureskill, April 27, 2008, 8:15pm; Reply: 11
To be honest with you I tend to mix it up yes, the other day I bet 1-30 and had 14 wins in a row and then lost but I was still up £540, I just quit for the day then. I try and watch what numbers come up for as long as poss before playing as well. Betting on everything but the last 6 numbers works well. I tend to bet high so I don't need many spins to get what I want, brings down the risk I believe.
Posted by: theneophyte, April 27, 2008, 8:25pm; Reply: 12
I think you must have nerves of steel - I would be more inclined to do something like wait for a 1st dozen number and then bet that another first dozen will follow. If lost I would wait for the next 1 - 12 then bet for another with a progression.
Posted by: pureskill, April 27, 2008, 9:06pm; Reply: 13
It may seem like that but trust me in the last six months I have lost, but I have always made it back up and more before I finish playing. Give it a try with fun chips you maybe shocked.

I have just played roulette tv and got LWWWWWWWWW, so lost 300 right up but walked away with 240, not bad for an hours play
Posted by: colin, April 28, 2008, 7:29am; Reply: 14
What about the GREEN ZERO? C Y.
Posted by: pureskill, April 28, 2008, 6:38pm; Reply: 15
Ah yes '0' green is the trouble maker at times however I do bet on the green at times, but if it's been in the last 10 I don't tend to bet on it
Posted by: colin, April 28, 2008, 6:59pm; Reply: 16
Thanks Pureskill just wondering & Good luck .Colin
Posted by: colin, April 28, 2008, 7:00pm; Reply: 17
Thanks Pureskill just wondering & Good luck .Colin
Posted by: theneophyte, April 28, 2008, 10:47pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from pureskill
It may seem like that but trust me in the last six months I have lost, but I have always made it back up and more before I finish playing. Give it a try with fun chips you maybe shocked.

I have just played roulette tv and got LWWWWWWWWW, so lost 300 right up but walked away with 240, not bad for an hours play


i tried last night fun play on dublinbet - lost on first spin and never made it back but taking chances like this can work as long as you have the cash to back it up if you lose big. cheers.
Posted by: 850 (Guest), April 29, 2008, 12:54am; Reply: 19
The main advantage of live roulette over RNG, is that with Live Roulette you are playing a physical wheel which means there might be some physical imperfection or even dealer signature in the game. With the RNG, you are just going to get pure random results. I play on RNG´s and Live- RNG´s just because of the speed that you can play, but before I trust any RNG I make sure that the casinos is audited by a third party and they publish their payout results. Also I mix it up, which mathematically speaking shouldn´t make the slightest difference, but it sure makes me feel better. If you switch your systems around it would be very difficult to come up with an algorith that predicts your play. Call me paranoid, but I try and "randomise" my lay a bit- but the bottom line is, for an RNG to predict your next move, the program would have to be pretty sophisticated artificial intelligence. Unless you just bet red on a Martingale sequence and the switch to black as soon as you win, or something very easy to track.
Posted by: 1080 (Guest), April 29, 2008, 1:03am; Reply: 20
Quoted from 850
The main advantage of live roulette over RNG, is that with Live Roulette you are playing a physical wheel which means there might be some physical imperfection or even dealer signature in the game. With the RNG, you are just going to get pure random results. I play on RNG´s and Live- RNG´s just because of the speed that you can play, but before I trust any RNG I make sure that the casinos is audited by a third party and they publish their payout results. Also I mix it up, which mathematically speaking shouldn´t make the slightest difference, but it sure makes me feel better. If you switch your systems around it would be very difficult to come up with an algorith that predicts your play. Call me paranoid, but I try and "randomise" my lay a bit- but the bottom line is, for an RNG to predict your next move, the program would have to be pretty sophisticated artificial intelligence. Unless you just bet red on a Martingale sequence and the switch to black as soon as you win, or something very easy to track.


Why would the RNG have to predict anything. All the program has to do to make you lose is give a number or colour or whatever that you didnt bet on. You bet first then they give the result. Why would it need to be sophisticated.
Posted by: 850 (Guest), April 29, 2008, 1:42am; Reply: 21
Well theoretically you are right, you could program a system that just delivers a result the opposite of what you bet. That´s why I always do my research to make sure that the RNG is audited by a third party. If the company is listed on a stock exchange, even better, because this amounts to fraud. Even gambling companies have to play by the rules when they have shareholders.

If you are really paranoid about this, play on a multiplayer RNG system. This way, at least, you can argue that the system has to defraud more than one person simultaneously. What if they bet on opposite colours? Then the system has to work out which player to defraud etc etc..now we are getting into sophisticated systems again.

The bottom line is that these companies don´t need to improve the house edge on roulette with fraud. It´s good enough for them already. Sure, they´re are going to take a hit from one or two players (hopefully me) who are on winning streaks, but average out all the money that is bet over all the money that is paid out over all the roulette players over, say, a month and they will be up for sure.
Posted by: 1080 (Guest), April 29, 2008, 2:08am; Reply: 22
Well I only play on live tables anyway so i'm not really that bothered. My play is based on dealers repetitive deals so I cant play on RNG.

Regards
D
Posted by: pureskill, April 29, 2008, 3:09am; Reply: 23
Quoted from theneophyte


i tried last night fun play on dublinbet - lost on first spin and never made it back but taking chances like this can work as long as you have the cash to back it up if you lose big. cheers.


I bet £5 on each number, so total 150, wins come in at 180 a time, my min balance is always around 1000, sounds a lots but i tend to win about 70 a day so it covers itself in a little over a month
Posted by: Boo_Ray, May 1, 2008, 9:06pm; Reply: 24
hey
I want to ask if roulete like that --> http://www.gold-club.si/omega.asp have a mehanism for playing against you... Coz sometimes when I play alone it looks like if I leave 5 numbers free, it will stick the ball right in the middle of that open area with no bet... Can they have magnets or speed control over spin? After all they have to locate the ball on roulete to tell which number hitted..

My english is not perfect, I hope u understeand what I am trying to tell and ask..

cya
Max
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