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Steve
November 28, 2008, 3:46pm Report to Moderator

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Hi Ronjo, assuming it was your fax, all of the pages were completely blank. Not sure what the problem was - I'll email you a copy of what I received. I cant wait for you to get started too!
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Also I've created a new website:

http://www.roulettewars.com

It's far from complete though. some of you may find it funny, but others may not. And Mark, dont fret about the photo, try to see the light side of it, although I still do think you are a bonafide nutcase.

And seriously guys, lighten up.
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coolpaddy
November 29, 2008, 2:42am Report to Moderator

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Hi Ronjo,

I'm looking forward to your evaluation of the systems. This time last year you were at the heart of the charity competition as adjudicator together with Lanky. I couldn't wish for two more upstanding and knowledgeable people to conduct a fair and unbiased trial on a system which has intrigued me and many others for so long. It's a shame that Lanky is unable to continue this time also, but I know that your skills and judgement will ensure a successful trial.


                                                                      Best regards
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Hi Steve,

Sorry about the delay,I have sent them again,let me know if they came through.

Best Regards,
Ronjo.
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Hi Coolpaddy,

Great to hear from you again,yes I assure you and the rest of the roulette community,that I will try my best to do this evaluation to the best of my ability,and people that are close to me know that my integrity is important to me and always kept intact.

Best Regards,
Ronjo.
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November 29, 2008, 7:04pm Report to Moderator
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I assure you and the rest of the roulette community,that I will try my best to do this evaluation to the best of my ability,and people that are close to me know that my integrity is important to me and always kept intact.


Never ever been any doubt about that My Friend.

Your as straight up & down as they come Mate & You tell it like it is.

Your the right person for the evaluation My Mate.

God Bless You Cobber.

Lanky.
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Hi Ronjo, fax received, thanks. Also you are probably going to find a lot of people will attack you. Actually probably not a lot of people, I mean people like Bago (Tony Duhamel) who spend day after day on forums attacking people to defend his ego. And of course mark howe and his many fake names. There are a few people that really have something to lose from all this. I suggest ignore any pressure they may put on you and just tell it like it is.

Whoever attacks you and your findings will probably accuse you of of being incompetent, or that I somehow used smoke and mirrors to fool you. For example, when it comes to the different diamond test, forester has already said I could just load the same numbers into the phone to cheat. Of course that's a stupid claim because you can do whatever test you want to show it's not the case. But anyway, what I want to do is send you a dvd with a TOP view of the wheel, so you can do the test with virtually any spin, rather than just one spin. The new wheel is being tested for possible bias etc and I should hear back this week. When I get the wheel back I'll do the top view video and send you everything.

Also Lanky, Iwonder seems to have fallen off the face of the planet. Please contact him and ask him to respond to me. Weeks have passed and he isnt responding to my emails. I called him at work, and just left a message, but I dont want to intrude by calling him at work. At the same time, I'm not going to put up with lack of response for weeks. It's not a problem if he hasn't had time to do any testing, but if he hasnt got time, then I want him to send the phone back so I can send to Ronjo. As I'm low on stock and someone else now has the phone you returned, I may need Iwonder's phone back to send to Ronjo.
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Hello. I would just like to say I recent met steve. I live in NZ and flew over for a day to meet him and see a few things. My opinion of him is he is a very sincere guy. I am a good judge of character and no mans fool. I know I am not known here which rules out me being part of this challenge. Do not believe the stuff going on about steve. he really is a great guy. Ronjo I hope you get to meet him so you can tell the truth about everything. It really is quite bad how so many people have attempted to shoot him down. i wanted to say my part and wish i could say more. I look forward to seeing the outcome of all this but I know first hand what the truth all is.
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Thanks hawk.

Ronjo & everyone: as Forester claims the ultimate test of a roulette computer's effectiveness is the different diamond test, it will be a major point to focus on for Ronjo. Lanky and Iwonder had concerns that doing such a test on my dvd may not be considered "independent". So as I stated above, I'll send Ronjo a dvd of spins where the wheel can be seen from the top. That way, he can choose any spin he wants to do the test. It only needs to be a spin where the ball doesnt do something like skip, but it would be very rare anyway.

No matter what tests Ronjo does, they will be criticized by people like Bago and Forester. So what we need to do is figure out possible ways I might be able to cheat in such a test, and close the possibilities so the validations are clearly authentic. In other words, I dont want the morons to have a leg to stand on or to have any potential excuse. Anyone have any additional suggestions?
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NP steve!

I add that I thought I knew a few things about roulette, until I met you. Your knowledge of roulette is astounding. You once said people that know you well say you might be the worlds foremost expert in roulette. I believe it now I really do.

In the few hours I met with him he taught me more about patterns of wheels than I imagined would be possible. I do wish I could say more to others but steve really is the real deal. I hope you see everything I saw Ronjo.
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Also Lanky, Iwonder seems to have fallen off the face of the planet. Please contact him and ask him to respond to me. Weeks have passed and he isnt responding to my emails. I called him at work, and just left a message, but I dont want to intrude by calling him at work. At the same time, I'm not going to put up with lack of response for weeks. It's not a problem if he hasn't had time to do any testing, but if he hasnt got time, then I want him to send the phone back so I can send to Ronjo. As I'm low on stock and someone else now has the phone you returned, I may need Iwonder's phone back to send to Ronjo.


Hi Steve I made contact with Iwonder today Mate.
There has been a very good excuse for any delay from his side.
In fact one of His employees was in an accident & the news is not good.

He is going to contact You Mate.

Lanky.
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Thanks Lanky.
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MARK: Like I said would happen, three more of your websites are now down. Really I'm not interested in your sites or harming you, but I'll just keep taking your websites down if you host rubbish. You can move to a new host each time. But each time you do it, you run the risk of losing your domains for good. I suggest read the policies on repeat offenders. Just get on with your own business instead of trying to harm me. I've been trying to mind my own business for years and just get on with work.
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UPDATE: I've been informed Iwonder is sending me back the phone today, so I'll have it some time next week.

Anyway it still amazes me petty rubbish the stooges are doing to try and get at me. IN JUST THE LAST 24HRS:

1. Bago has complained to my numerous web hosts saying it is highly illegal for me to post his name. Firstly Tony, you have been posting your name all over the internet professing to know all about me and that I'm a scammer. I dont care about this though because it's all just a matter of time until everyone knows how full it you were. If you're concerned you'll look like an incompetent idiot, consider no-one likes you anyway. And secondly, read the contracts you signed Tony - who I deal with is my intellectual property. I'm not interested in harming you at all Tony - consider everything carefully. All I'm doing is defending myself, and to defend myself I need to identify who you are. Why your name? Because Mark publishes it all over his websites like a rash. That's your fault, not mine, remember? But the fact that he does that actually gives me a tool to shut his sites down, so maybe I should thank you. It's not like I'm publishing your drivers license or address, but I've had to send copies of the contracts to my hosts so they know what a moron you are. I send the same copies of the contracts to mark's hosts to shut his sites down too, and Forester's sites.

2. Forester has told his host I am to deal with him directly. I warned the host it was not a good idea. After all Miro, you aren't exactly someone of integrity. When I emailed him, he complained to my host saying it was spam. What a complete moron. Again Miro, I'm not interested in harming you. You stomp your feet like a child because you want to get the better of me. I'm just not interested. If you want it to end, just stop publishing rubbish. Is it really that hard?

3. Mark put his websites back online using different hosts, but with the same material..... so they're about to go offline again.

Honestly you three really are the three stooges. Consider everything I have ever done to you that you are so bitter about. Like shutting down websites, email accounts etc. Did I really do all that, or was it all just my reaction to your attacks to defend myself? Havent you guys learnt yet? I'm not just interested in attacking you clowns.

Especially Forester and Mark: you two go on and on about how you know people that are unhappy with my products. But hey, I'm the one who was actually sent 1 each of your computer's for free by unhappy purchasers. Do you want me to publish the photos of them again? You know if I really wanted to waste time embarassing you morons, I would publish videos of your computers being demonstrated, and going into absolute detail, I could even publish emails from people that complained to me about your devices but why bother? Especially you mark, I have plenty of forwarded emails, but why dont i publish them? Because I'm not interested in attacking you or anyone - only defending myself. This challenge is ample. Another fact to you both to consider. I have close to 100 computer purchasers. Surely if they all thought I was a scammer they'd be out in force complaining, but mark had to even invent characters. Even if forester is right that 6 people didnt have the first idea how to use it, what about the rest of the players?

Sorry you guys are just morons and I really could go on and on about how thickheaded you are, let's just stick to the challenge. As on http://www.roulettewars.com, Episode I (only what counts) is going to be quite embarrassing for you all. It's not my fault though. I'm just defending myself. I know this wont help but here goes: just give up - it will be better for everyone in the long run. You can all go on and on publishing rubbish, but in the end what will that do? I would bet my left testicle, actually both of them, that Ronjo will comfortably confirm my claims, and that exposes you all for what you are - liars and incompetent morons. And the more you attack me, the bigger idiots you will look like later. Sorry but that is the reality, but it's not like you ever listened to me before. There is just honestly nothing any of you could do to actually make a significant impact to especially my wealth, especially as my business interests are too varied and too many of them are not impacted by what stooges say. But as Mickey Mouse once said, "if you dont at first succeed, try try again". If I wanted to attack you morons, the game would be very different. But all I need to do is defend myself and effectively you have harmed yourself. Anyway have a think about it, I mean really - who is harming who?

May the force be with you all.
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I've just been alerted to the fact that Bago published a video of him doing the different diamond test. When he first sent me the video (years ago), I was disappointed that I didn't save it for future reference. That's because later I wanted to prove he used a PC DVD player which are notorious for skipping. But now you can see it for yourself at:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=UYVjPGMPkE0

You can clearly see he's using his PC computer DVD player, contrary to my advice. Google skipping pc dvd players and read through the information. Sorry Bago, you just made an arse of yourself, again.

But anyway, Ronjo will do all the tests he wants to show what a moron Bago is. Specifically Ronjo will have a top view of hundreds of spins, and he can choose any of the spins to do the test. I'm sure Ronjo knows better than to use anything but a proper dvd player. Despite verification of my claims on this point, does this test prove the effectiveness of a computer like Forester claims? Nope, there's a lot more to an effective computer than this. But almost all (90%) of foresters claims fall apart when the test is done and Ronjo can see for himself.
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