A long video demostration, like 200 spins or something like that.

200 spins is still short-term, but sure a longer video can be done, and it is going to be done when my new wheel arrives. It is very easy to establish proof of effectiveness for roulette computers because you have things like a beep when the ball is predicted to fall, plus you need fewer spins to see proof. For the system or any advantage method, you realistically need 1,000 or so spins unless actual principles that reveal where the edge come from are demonstrated. But to demonstrate the actual principles is not something I'd want to publish for casinos to see, although you see elements of it in person if you visit for a demo.

But look at one simple point for example: chart 100 spins and the diamond the ball hits. You will find 1 diamond is hit significantly more than others. It is almost never a perfect spread. This leads to the time of spin being more consistent, plus it gives you a much greater capacity to know what number is under the diamond when the ball falls. From there it is just scatter analysis. What I've just typed is a very basic explanation to exploit a dominant drop point on a wheel. There is of course a lot more to it, but I'm aiming only to explain one of the many principles my system uses. I am not the only one to know how to exploit such an attribute - it is actually common knowledge to casino consultants.

You can also read pages like http://www.genuinewinner.com/theory.html and decide for yourself if I actually know what I'm talking about, or people who publish entire websites about me under fake names just have something to lose from me being honest. Even at Forester's web site, every time I see it, there's new rubbish he's written about me. I'm not interested in stuffing around. I'm not interested in discrediting him or anyone. I only expose the lies from him and others, and that embarasses them, so they try harder and the cycle repeats. Truth is so much louder than rubbish, and all truth comes out eventually and then he and Mark will be embarassed even more. It's quite a pitty that many people choose to believe him, and they truly do not know the full extent of their manipulation. Mark is far worse, but Forester is part very ignorant, and part plain arrogant and he wants to be "king of the hill" with the BEST computer. It's as if he wants to think he has the biggest penis or something and it's very childish. Despite Forester's ignorance, he IS a liar. I have corrected him many times, and he's just not interested in the truth - even with the smallest details and he cannot seem to even conceive that he was wrong - it'd be too much pain for his ego perhaps. But anyway, like I keep saying, all truth comes out eventually.

Beating roulette is really not all that difficult. There are many legitimate ways it can be achieved. I do not release my secrets, and neither did players who have won millions with the techniques they used 10-50 or so years ago (techniques that no longer need to be secrets). At this stage, when you become my player, you dont receive the techniques - what you receive is the right to use them, and that can be removed at any stage because not all players are trustworthy. As for other techniques I teach, like visual ballistics, sure you can rely on them entirely as some players do. Only either an ignorant fool or someone with something to lose from me being honest would claim I was dishonest, and/or that what I teach is ineffective. Specifically with people like Forester and Howe, they make claims, I clearly prove them wrong, and they get mad for that and try harder. Anyone who's actually visited me would know how... full of excrement they are.

I have no doubt my methods will eventually be common knowledge. But there's still a while for that to happen. People that have doubted the legitimacy of me and my techniques, including competitors, will be red-faced in time - in fact they've already been embarassed numerous times which is partly why they're so mad. Some people are so desperate to protect their ego but like I said, all truth comes out eventually.

hey mr. moderator i have been predicting tennis match very well...

yes i know a lot of tennis and it does help... surface.. head to head match up, how he or she is playing last two weeks or so.. or where he or she is coming from.. maybe some jet log etc... and it is very predictable....

what is your thoughts on that?  I doubled my bankroll comfortably.... just like you predict your wheel.... but tennis more preditable since there are big difference between great player and good player in tennis.... it is hard to find in other sports...

Anyhow.. what is your thoughts on that?  

I've never really gotten into tennis, but I cant see anything wrong with betting on sports. It's like horse racing though - you are ultimately betting against others, and in the middle is the bookie. So you have to be more accurate that others, with a little extra accuracy. One positive to tennis is perhaps many people that bet dont follow the tennis as closely as you would if you treated it as a business. This can give you an advantage. In my experience though, any kind of sports betting is not really about knowing who will win - it's more about value bets.

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hey mr. moderator i have been predicting tennis match very well...

yes i know a lot of tennis and it does help... surface.. head to head match up, how he or she is playing last two weeks or so.. or where he or she is coming from.. maybe some jet log etc... and it is very predictable....

what is your thoughts on that?  I doubled my bankroll comfortably.... just like you predict your wheel.... but tennis more preditable since there are big difference between great player and good player in tennis.... it is hard to find in other sports...

Anyhow.. what is your thoughts on that?  

Hey joker,when is the next game coming up?I am still waiting for your tips

Hey there right now is in China open.. go to Atptennis.com...

Men's side... roddick looks pretty well.... women's i go  for Kuzetsunova,

and my men robredo... at this point.. i would say safe to bet on Roddick.. but I have to see who is he going to play with...

well my friend.. you have to be careful I don't play anything dangerous... I bet on early round so I can get high percentage winning...

thank you

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Hey there right now is in China open.. go to Atptennis.com...

Men's side... roddick looks pretty well.... women's i go  for Kuzetsunova,

and my men robredo... at this point.. i would say safe to bet on Roddick.. but I have to see who is he going to play with...

well my friend.. you have to be careful I don't play anything dangerous... I bet on early round so I can get high percentage winning...

thank you

I have put my money on roddick let's see how it goes

Wow.. you made tough bet.. I told you to waitl... he played Ferrero.. boy he is tough customer....

but good news.. you won!!!!!! I also won with Kuztesunova..... my bankroll is triple now......

I hope you didn't put money after Ferrero Match... Never never put money when they are playing quarterfinal or semifinal... anything can happen around this round.....

I will let you know what's good bet next....
hope you won the money with Roddick ... he won the match..... but don't bet on him next.....

oh by the way my man Robredo lost... and no surprise...... and of cource I didn't bet  on him....

Okay I looked through the upcoming bet...

No.. that's it... we done.. sorry... No more.... Anything can happen at any moment from now on...

every tournament is almost coming to end.....

well, don't know how much you know about the tennis but in China open half of the top seeds are gone...

I mean after round of 16.... anything can happen.. especially this kind of smaller tournament....

so don't bet anymore... you probaly made $10 if yo bet $40 or 50 on roddick.... he had hard time agianst Ferrero but he pulled it out...

okay... again no more bet....

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Okay I looked through the upcoming bet...

No.. that's it... we done.. sorry... No more.... Anything can happen at any moment from now on...

every tournament is almost coming to end.....

well, don't know how much you know about the tennis but in China open half of the top seeds are gone...

I mean after round of 16.... anything can happen.. especially this kind of smaller tournament....

so don't bet anymore... you probaly made $10 if yo bet $40 or 50 on roddick.... he had hard time agianst Ferrero but he pulled it out...

okay... again no more bet....

I made 20 as  I put 100 on roddick.Do keep me inform if there are good bets.Thanks Pal

my pleasure... boy you kind of got lucky.... should have bet on kuzetsunova... women's side... actually if I knew Roddick plays on Ferrero  i wouldn't have bet on it.. but you won.. so it's okay.. well as you know You won't make huge money at once...

and must stick with safe bet... but you think about it... let's say you start with $500 bankroll... you can lose $500 at any game at anytime...

i mean even you start $10 unit... you use any progressive system then you done....  

for this one you won't get emotional.. I bet one match at time.. never muliple.. never.... and this is slow approach but never lose money by losing control...

if you lose the match then you sit and research and place a bet again... if you were in casino you can lose your emotion any time... and heck. we are not really playing.. tennis players are playing and they are very very strickt about cheating.. they can end their career if they lose purposly....

I tripled my bank account without any difficulty... I mean this is the best betting I have encounter in my gambling career.. i don't have to drive.. don't have to deal with weird people at casino.. or i don't have to eat at casino... and I enjoy the tennis so it is great for me... i have billions of tennis match recorded and I know how they play and how they are playing recently...

As I said I was going to bet on number 1 seed... this guy knocked out in first round.. I knew this is coming.. why? he played poorly in his previous match...
and it was his favorite surface also... and plus he came from all the way from Spain to China... and very tired..... and might be possible injury also...
Those players are out.... Tennis.. you have be fresh... i mean you must be...

anyhow.... goodluck

Steve when will you get your new wheel?

My new wheel arrives late October, then Huxley will call me to arrange delivery.

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My new wheel arrives late October, then Huxley will call me to arrange delivery.

Hello steve,

so how anyone respond to your challenge already.me like the rest of the people here would really love to know the truth.I guess its good for your reputation as well,it can also clear your name once and for all.Let's push this a bit and get it done asap before the matter turns cold.

I have contacted Lanky but he hasnt responded. If anyone knows him well enough, or if they know Kelly or someone else that is appropriate, please encourage them. I too would like this sorted out, but I dont have the time to go chasing it down every day. In particularly people like Kelly would only need to see some of my system material to know the system is legit, as Kelly is familiar with visual ballistics which are just a part of what I teach. I'd prefer Kelly to come as he is better known but Lanky would be welcome too. Anyone else here interested to visit me with airfares/accomodation paid? The demos will be recorded but your face of course wont be shown. I already have audio from many demos available, especially of the hybrid and each go for a few hours but before they are released I need to spend censoring the audio. With this proposed public challenge I want to make virtually all of it freely available.