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Hi Ronjo, 1pm tomorrow my time is fine. Hopefully chat to you then.
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FORESTER: Your NEW web host said "Thanks we don't allow such material on our servers and I will send this to the client and give him 24 hours to remove it from our servers, if he does not comply we will terminate his account."

That was 25 hours ago.

I'll say it again: if you host rubbish, I'll have your sites brought down. Get it through your head - I dont care about you or harming you, but dont host rubbish and I wont bring your sites down. I'll also make it perfectly clear to you that the aspects used to bring your sites down are only a fragment of possible methods to bring down your sites. Dont make the mistake of thinking DMCA is all there is. Remember I'm not hacking your sites or anything - you are breaking the law. Dont host rubbish and dont break the law, and your sites wont be brought down. Is it really that hard to understand? I've shut down most of mark's sites for similar reasons, and I'll deal with his others when I have time. Contrary to what he thinks, they really make bugger all impact on my life but it doesnt mean I'll put up with them.

Anyway Forester, we can keep doing this, but is it really worth it for you? Once again, nothing you or anyone will do is going to stop the truth coming out, and all three of you are going to look like A1 morons. Of course you'll blame me and try to harm me more as usual. You have the same learning disability as mark.
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Everyone, just a recap and update on everything: When Lanky withdrew due to health issues, I asked Victor from VLS forum who he suggested might be an appropriate person to take his place. Specifically I needed to find someone that is well-known and trusted by the other forum members. After all, it makes no sense to have a brand new forum member. Ronjo was on the list, and I just spoke to him on the phone.

Ronjo appears to be an ideal match. He is from South Africa. He is an experienced visual ballistics player. He understands what he is talking about so I have no doubt he will be able to competently conduct testing of the computer. Before I proceed with him, I just need to do some background checking but I'm sure it will be fine. I will then send him a computer to evaluate. I'll send him footage of the mk7 wheel, the other wheel, and a test dvd for him to do additional testing. He may also apply the computer at one of his local casinos. While he will be able to verify my every claim, what matters most is actually one of the most basic things for him to verify. Specifically, he will verify my claims about the 6 and 3 pocket arc. Most of you reading this will know what this means, but I'll explain again just in case:

Forester, Bago and Mark all claim my computer gives random predictions when you attempt to predict the same spin repeatedly on dvd, but use different reference points. The theory behind this is that even when different reference points are used, the prediction will be in the same area. Forester claims this is the hold grail of testing to determine a computer's accuracy, which is absolute nonsense but we'll do the test anyway. My claim is that after the initial sample with my computer, all predictions are within a 6 pocket arc. But when the computer is fully tuned, they should all be within a 3 pocket arc. Perhaps not ALL, but certainly most. Ronjo will also do a series of tests to determine whether I merely cheated by loading the phone only with specific numbers. The tests will be explained in detail in due course, and to anyone that understands them, it will be clear that my claims are accurate.

As for the system, because Ronjo understands roulette prediction well, I only need to explain to him some of the basics of my system. From this alone, he should know whether or not my techniques are the real thing, or if I'm just full of it. But we'll do the computer validations first, then the system. For the sake of being thorough, Ronjo will be shown more than what he needs to see - same with the computer. Perhaps it is overkill, but no matter.

Before too long, any reasonable person will know how full of it Forester, Bago and Mark are. But like I keep saying, they will never admit they were wrong. But I don't need them to because everyone following this challenge will know it. The truth will be clear no matter how much the stooges stomp their feet. Certainly they will be embarrassed and will try harder to harm me, but that has never been my intention.
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FORESTER, In light of the discussions with your new web host, I'll remind you of the following: I'm not in the least bit interested in harming you or your website(s). Remove the offending material, or your site gets shut down - we can continue to do this again and again with different hosts. It will waste both of our time, and your money. You are probably telling people I attacked your sites our of spite or something, when it is simply not the case. You have misled so many people about me, but soon that will be rectified. I tried to make peace with you and tried to speak with you man to man, but you are not a reasonable person and didn't want to listen to the truth. What does it mean when someone doesn't want to listen to the truth? That the truth is not important to them.

Your host is calling my solicitors today. Whatever they want to verify is up to them but leads to the same place.

You go around telling people you know 6 people that are unhappy with my computer. Let's see: Bago who used the computer on a skipping dvd player, your croatian friend who month after month kept requesting access codes so i naturally assumed there was no problem, and besides he never complained about any problems - but when I heard of his contract breach, I banned him. Too bad if he's your friend and you want to harm me for banning him - he broke the contracts and got what he should have expected. Then there are two others that wont be mentioned for their privacy - and I asked you on the phone repeatedly to ASK THEM FOR YOURSELF WHAT THEY THINK OF MY COMPUTER. One of them even wrote a review on it and he is very happy with it. The other feels exactly the same. I said on the phone to ask them for yourself and that you had no idea what you were talking about - you just ignored that on the phone, remember? You may know of less than 1% of my players, but you are basically using your knowledge of their existence to lie about them and their experience with me and my computers.

All you and people like mark and bago are interested in is harming me. Really I dont want to harm you, and I do wish you the best, but you are making it impossible for yourself. It is no secret I consider you to be a complete "dickhead", along with bago and mark. But that doesnt mean I want conflict which is why I tried to work things out with you.
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Mark my good friend, if you think I dont know who you are on this forum, and who you are when you call me via phone under fake names, well, think again. Indeed I play along with your phone calls - they are all recorded. You are absolutely the biggest clown I've ever known - you beat Bago and Forester combined, and that's quite a feat - you should be proud.

By the way, thankyou for verifying with even clarity you contacted my wife under a fake name. You brought Forester into the investigation and made what had happened even clearer. You should have known from the start my wife and I knew exactly who you were when you said initially you were overseas. What was one of the last lines of the first email we wrote to you? How long have you been overseas for, right? Why do you think it was asked? I thought that might have given it away. Cheryl had been back in Australia for some time. You dont have the vaguest idea of our association with her. All the things you people do to try and discredit me, all along neglecting what really counts because that wouldn't be appropriate for you. I know why you did it all though Mark, because you were embarrassed when we found out your girlfriend kicked you out of the house, and you blamed it on me. No Mark, you were spending day in day out on your computer promoting your scam - that's why she kicked you out. Did you own the property? Nope. You didn't own even part of it. Was it a silver Ferrari in the driveway? Well, need I really go on about this? So I understand your motivations for trying to harm me, but all you did was reveal one of my assets - good job. Did you ever stop to think why we continued the conversations with you, but when it came to sending you bank statements we only stalled and continued to play along?

2 warrior crt is close to where I actually live, but it was a nice try. You stooges haven't any idea about my financial status, but if you want to focus on that, perhaps why dont you call the real estate agent and see who owns the property. At $450/week rent, not too bad is it? Would you like to know my overall income? No perhaps that would embarass you further and it's not even relevant anyway, as usual.

So boys, are we going to hang around playing who has the bigger bank account - or perhaps who has the bigger penis? Maybe later, but for now I'll focus on what counts.

Really to all of you, although to you guys it may seem nothing more than hippie-talk, I really do wish you all the best, truly. Doesnt mean I'm stopping police investigations though, that will teach you a bit of a lesson. You are absolute morons but I do sincerely wish you love and happiness in your life, and I do hope that perhaps in another life if there is such a thing, that we can all hang out together and play xbox and stuff. While that may sound contradictory, understand what I do is merely to defend myself, not to attack you. Also lighten up fellas - have a sense of humor about it all.
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Here you go guys. It is the scientific measurement device for roulette computer effectiveness:



Let me guess, I need a bigger ruler, right?
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Just a note it has been decided for sure that Ronjo will do testing. His computer is ready for shipping. I still may proceed with Cloud, who is one of people who actually visited Mark, but it is uncertain for now as Ronjo will cover everything anyway.

Not long now, my fury little friends... (Bago, Forester and Mark). By the way, did you guys want a photo of my curtains? I'm certain we can arrange it. Did you want some kind of validation that they are my curtains? They aren't barcoded or anything, but perhaps I could wave a friendly finger in front of them. I'm extremely tempted to send some photos, of a few things, but I think I'll wait for that.
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MARK, you really never learn. Your website:



Once again, I do not want to harm any of you or your websites. But if you host rubbish, I will of course defend myself.

FORESTER: Your web host will explain to you why you can't even reference people like Bago, or your site will be shut down. Good thing I had those solicitors Mark kept saying I couldnt afford.

BAGO: Thanks for signing the contracts.

Look all of you. I truly don't want to harm anyone. But all of you are trying to so hard to harm me. All I want to do is let the truth be known. But you all go on and on about even irrelevant stuff. You even go on about a property I own. What on Earth has it got to do with anything relevant? Especially since I've even said on my website I didnt originally become wealthy from roulette playing. I am being honest with everyone, just as i have always been. In fact my wealth came from my companies such as site-promotion.com, and I've always said that. At least i didnt make some bullshit claim like mark who said he won GBP 8,000,000 before being banned. Yeah right, with a computer that does just about everything wrong - like you aimed to make a disaster. I was wealthy before I had developed my computers and systems. But of course now I have earned let's say more than enough from my own roulette teams. You should know even just the development of the hybrid cost probably more than all three of you earn a year (mark, bago, forester) but who cares? Let's stick to what's relevant ok? Or perhaps you dont because it doesnt suit you.

By the way Mark, another of your sites is coming down soon. I was going to just leave your sites for a bit longer as I had other things to do, but since you wanted to play games I changed my mind. You should understand that there are so many elements of your sites that enable them to be brought down. It's not like I'm hacking them - you are breaking the law. Dont blame me or your hosts, it is you. Idiots like Bago believed I gave him a refund because of information about him you posted on your sites in hopes he would make you remove it. No, I refunded him because he was a moron and I didnt want to deal with him. Even many other players kept saying they really didnt feel comfortable having him on the team. All bago did was give me another tool to bring down your rubbish sites. Perhaps now he understands the truth of the matter.

Anyway this is all a waste of time. Bago, keep using your expertise with roulette so you can move out of your parents house, or keep selling systems. Mark, perhaps take a drive in your Ferrari and Forester, you are a smart man but you are very ignorant and have showed so many times you either really have no idea what you are talking about, or just dont care about the truth. Perhaps a part of me still believe you have a bit of reason in you. We shall see your reaction to the end result here. Mark and Bago are a lost cause, but you are not far off either Forester. Still I hope one day we can all get along, but sadly i dont think realistically that will ever happen. Still sincerely though I do wish you all the best - all of you, even though you all want to stab me. Especially you Mark, I can feel your death rays from here.
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FORESTER: your host says you're cooperating. Whether or not you're happy about it, thankyou. If you want me to remove any of my material, ask away. It's unlikely that we'll ever play xbox or shower together, but I hope we can at least be civil to each other. Out of the three of you, Forester you are the most reasonable but still you and I love each other much the same amount. Still though, I'm borderline between believing you deliberately lied, or that you sincerely didnt know what you were talking about. I mean even just the point about you not understanding the risk feature and wheel speed, even after I corrected you but you ignored it, makes me think you lied on purpose - either that or you just passed on a player's complete misunderstanding of the most basic feature. Even Bago had no idea how to make risk called 0% of the time - how well can you understand something if you dont understand even the basics?? Also like how you tried to tell me about my own players and what they thought - and I just pleaded with you to ask them yourself to confirm what i said - you ignored it. Overall I think it's a blend of ignorance and deliberate attacks, but hey it's better than Mark's rubbish. According to mark, i lived next to a homeless hostel. Boy his lies are funny.

MARK: Many months ago when we were negotiating removal of our websites about each other, although you agreed to remove your rubbish, you kept posting absolute trash under fake names, this time on youtube. It was clear you had no intentions of working things out like adults - like I said you are a lost cause and truly believe you are mentally ill with the rubbish you've said and tried to do. In addition you denied owning roulettesystemsexposed when even your host acknowledged your owned it. Take your web sites and the material all down voluntary, without me having to do it for you, then I'll remove my web sites too. Look I know what sites you own, you must have rocks in your head if you think otherwise - hang on, you do. Every email ever sent to each other was sent to the police so they could evaluate the situation. Know what was clear? For many months after you found out i also sold computers, you attacked me relentlessly on gamblers glen. In many emails I asked and asked you to stop, and told you I didnt want to waste time responding to your rubbish. You were telling people my computers were ineffective before I even released ONE. You and I know how bad the rubbish was you were saying. In all our email correspondence, it was clear I never posted anything about you until I got fed up with me asking you politely to stop posting nonsense - so you pushed it, not me. Prior to that the only reference I ever made to you was saying another computer I purchased was found to be quite ineffective. Was I lying? No mark, you know it was true - still is, even your latest version. You know this, so be a man and dont attack me for stating truth. You really are screwed up as far as I'm concerned, how your lies are not just lies, they are way over the top. You are also ignorant though and dont know what you are talking about - i have no intentions of bragging but you have no idea of wealth. In all, I believe you are just a lost cause mark. i would love to be proven wrong though.

And Bago my dear friend, I dont know if you are plain stupid or what. You never had any idea about anything. When other players were earning hundreds of thousands, you were still wondering what I meant about vis a vis and multiple peaks. You are not the type of person to admit you were wrong though. I've never known someone to be so convinced they were right when they were so wrong.

Can't we all just get along? While I would like that, again I dont think it's likely to happen. No matter what the outcome of the challenges, you will all attack me, but given the results, it will only make you all look desperate.
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Bago issued a challenge to me that he can prove he doesnt live with his parents. Bago I just dont care. If I didnt know your date of birth, because of your immature behavior I honestly would not be surprised if less than 10 years ago you still wore nappies. Really you act 13, or close to. The only challenge that matters to me is this one here, because it is relevant. Go out and play roulette with the extensive experience and knowledge you profess to have.

Forester, you still havent removed much of the material. Your host will remind you to stop wasting everyone's time. Just get on with your own life. Regardless, soon the people you deceived will know all about your lies. And bago, everyone will know how you didnt even understand the most basic concepts. Mark, I better mention you too, my feelings are deep for you.
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Any pictures of your "purchased" wheel?
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Mark...7:



Excellent condition and like I said, it is being tested for bias and drop zones to Australian casino standards.

I've tested my standard computer on it, mark's computers and forester's IQE6. I have already done videos of the tests. IQE6 and Mark's computer were basically just as poor as each other - virtually random, just as Barnett found too. but the results were poor for different reasons. My computer produced very good results and you can analyze the video of testing for yourself and verify even when the ball didnt get a direct hit, the ball landed at least close to the prediction. Kinda hard to fake such obvious peaks. The tests of mark's and forester's computers have my clicks visible and all the startup procedures so it can be verified I didnt deliberately poorly apply them or something.

Forester says he wins in australian casinos. My arse he does, not with his computers unless he's playing a wheel with heavy drop zone. He claimed the dealer "screamed" at him asking him to not look at his wheels because he was winning too much. Do I really believe that? Um, no. If he drew that kind of attention and was actually winning, he'd be out the door in a tick. The bottom line is what they sell is complete rubbish and can only possibly be effective on older wheels, or with strong drop zones. But I'm not interested in harming you two, forester and mark. Just work on  your own computers instead of lying about mine. Like I have said from the beginning, you guys have your computers all wrong. The only thing mark does right is polynomials, if thats what he uses. Forester, you NEED polynomials for many reasons. Even the smallest air pressure variation may make the ball move 90 degrees extra in 30 mins, then you can say bye-bye to accuracy because you have no way of knowing ball behavior. Mark I explained to you what my algorithms do once. I would honestly given you both the algorithms if you werent such morons. But forester your hardware wouldnt be able to support them anyway. I know I know, you think you know better. Yes you said zap was best before too. Mark you need to address a hardware problem before you can get anywhere near accurate enough. Based on your mobile prophecy version, it was clear you didnt do even close to required mods.

Also Ronjo, as per our phone conversation, i'll send you video of tests on the new wheel and you can apply the computer for yourself so see you get much the same results. You can also begin application from anywhere in the dvd. You can use 100 different spins to do the different diamond test. You can do whatever you want. I bet would honestly bet my life that an experienced player that conducted any testing they want could validate my claims. I also bet my life that the same tests with both foresters and mark's computers would show virtually random results.
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As explained earlier, the videos done show elements that are trade secrets - they are for players only. I will do "public" videos later some time after I get the wheel back - it is being tested and I'll have a report about it pertaining to australian standards.
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Hi Steve,

Did you recieve the documents?I cant wait to get started,

Ronjo.
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