two cat sam

cheers and good luck

Nothing can be proven about a system's effectiveness in just 14 minutes. Any system can be up over even 24hrs of play.

Jobsaboba has been winning consistently for TWO solid years using his UNIQUE system that NO ONE has ever seen. He was planning a wonderfully generous surprise that I had to keep quiet about. When he told me what he was going to do, I couldn't believe it! Unfortunately, subsequent comments on this forum have changed things.

Very sad but that's life.

- Rouland

OK, here is my video

You do not download this file, you watch it from the site.  It is called LeapFrog.  You would do well to download the HD Player.  It's great and makes the video much clearer.  First your screen will go black but just wait a minute.  Also put your cursor toward the bottom of the screen and a scroll bar will appear and you can fast forward.  Try the full screen version.  Icon is lower right.

The video pauses because I was trying to pause my screen capture software to just show my bet and then the spin.  Did not work.  I'll try harder.  

Samster


http://www.motionbox.com/folde.....uid=4e94d7b91017e9c3

Well, Jobsoboba can just take his ball and go home.  We'll get another one and the game will go on.

Rouland, I guess I'm one of the ones who ruffled this bird's feathers.  Well, if we're going to act like 2nd graders.......bj did it first!!!

If the man had played with Euros and had a couple of thousand in his account he would have gotten everyone's attention.

When a logical question is asked and the person asked leaves without answering, doesn't that ring phony?

I asked two logical questions.  theneophyte educated me on one of them.

I still want to know why he didn't earn himself some money while playing.

Sam

Would any one be able to explain how the leapfrog/"what ever was in the video" system is played (in your own words)? As of now all my roulette playing is of trends/streaks and while it DOES work its far easier to place bets accoriding to a system And besides I dont mind testing the system even if it does turn out to fail - it may give me more ideas to try!

TwoCatSam

Watched some of your video but would like
to know what you're doing.

Otherwise it doesn't educate me at all!

Did I really ruffle some feathers simply by
asking for the logic in betting the same number
of units on black and red at the same time?

Seems feathers are easily ruffled here.

bj and all

The question was raised whether or not is was possible to bet on red/black at the same time and make a profit.  Norman Squire in his book HOW TO WIN AT ROULETTE outlines a methodology/system whereby you bet on red/black and win.  Some said is was not mathematically possible.  It is.

In my video, I make $20 bets using the Martingale to the fifth loss.  I encountered the zero twice within five spins and still won the trot.  I bet black/red and won #100.

What's the point?

Jobsoboda bet on red and black.  I guess I am defending the guy on this point as it is possible to win doing this.  I truly feel he is using some form of Squire's system.  I would bet a hundred he has read the book.  Now, if he perfected the system.....power to him.

Quoting you:  "Did I really ruffle some feathers simply by
asking for the logic in betting the same number
of units on black and red at the same time?"

You are 100% correct in that it is a fool's errand to bet equal amounts on the same proposition.  You are just giving the zero a free shot at you.

Anyway, I spent about four hours and $30 making that video and finding a spot to host it.  I learned a lot.  Someday I will make a truly informative and productive video and I now know how to host it.

Is this fun or what??

Samster

I agree it may be possible to win by betting
on red and black at the same time - but not
with the same amount on each!

You could simply use a progression on each
color at the same time - untill a run of 20
reds comes up!

You'd never have the same amount on both
colors at the same time.

Keep on Sam.  It is fun.

Quoted from TwoCatSam

OK, here is my video

You do not download this file, you watch it from the site.  It is called LeapFrog.  You would do well to download the HD Player.  It's great and makes the video much clearer.  First your screen will go black but just wait a minute.  Also put your cursor toward the bottom of the screen and a scroll bar will appear and you can fast forward.  Try the full screen version.  Icon is lower right.

The video pauses because I was trying to pause my screen capture software to just show my bet and then the spin.  Did not work.  I'll try harder.  

Samster


http://www.motionbox.com/folde.....uid=4e94d7b91017e9c3

Sam,

I can state, with absolute certainty, that Jobsaboba's system has nothing to do with the LeapFrog. Jobsaboba's approach to analyzing roulette resulted in a very ... very UNIQUE algorithm.

On the basis of your reference to the LeapFrog, the conclusion can be safely drawn that you're not familiar with the system that Jobsaboba is using.

Jobsaboba has been keeping his SECRET for TWO years, that's why he was/is so confident about demonstrating his system live. Just imagine the number of winning spins he has accumulated over the past two years. A proven system.

Remember, Jobsaboba was seeking to build a syndicate of winning players that would consistently beat the casinos. It might be worthwhile re-reading his first post.

Anyway, Sam, thanks for your efforts in trying to decipher Jobsaboba's method.

- Rouland

Rouland this is the post i have been waiting for knew it was going to happen sooner or later . The people like me that have been reading roulette forumsreiglous for years must know this 1 thing if some 1 has a roulettesystem  if its not up in the first couple of posts its not coming now or ever . people ask ?s its the only way to learn in my opinion . ok boys and girls i an willing to bet a 1p to a £ we will never see this system in print . Jobsaboba please have a change and put the system on the line or in the systems for sale section. good luck to 1 and all Colin

Hi folks, i give my 2p worth opinion about this..it's all a bit confuse and unclear...a guy came here telling that he has a matematic sistem to beat the roulette..he said that he needs 8-10 people to test it...why only 8-10?? this is a forum to share the ideas and efforts to beat the roulette right? why not post the sistem to prove that is a winner?? more people that can test it, more chances to prove the winner side...and why 2CatSam has not been choosen?? He was the 1st that has asked for the test...Rouland you said that he's winning from the last 2 years...are you sure? did he show you the balance?? because i can say that my 3000gt has got 600 bhp...but without dyno sheet is just bollocks...he didn't answer the questions here, he didn't get the challenge from Sam, so i'm a bit sceptic about all of this...and the funny thing is that now the members are in debate about this, and he simply vanished...i mean guys, do you really think that if somebody has a holy grail for the roulette is going to test it on fun money on the forum?? i don't think so, i don't get it, ask 10 people to test it, didn't explain the sistem and after some comment a bit sceptic just disappear...i didn't see the porpouse...Rouland and the others that have tried the sistem, what do you honestly think about it??
I think that the guy should say something to clear up our minds...
And by the way if he's winning i'm happy for him

Regards
Ivo

Quoted from thypon066

Hi folks, i give my 2p worth opinion about this..it's all a bit confuse and unclear...a guy came here telling that he has a matematic sistem to beat the roulette..he said that he needs 8-10 people to test it...why only 8-10?? this is a forum to share the ideas and efforts to beat the roulette right? why not post the sistem to prove that is a winner?? more people that can test it, more chances to prove the winner side...and why 2CatSam has not been choosen?? He was the 1st that has asked for the test...Rouland you said that he's winning from the last 2 years...are you sure? did he show you the balance?? because i can say that my 3000gt has got 600 bhp...but without dyno sheet is just bollocks...he didn't answer the questions here, he didn't get the challenge from Sam, so i'm a bit sceptic about all of this...and the funny thing is that now the members are in debate about this, and he simply vanished...i mean guys, do you really think that if somebody has a holy grail for the roulette is going to test it on fun money on the forum?? i don't think so, i don't get it, ask 10 people to test it, didn't explain the sistem and after some comment a bit sceptic just disappear...i didn't see the porpouse...Rouland and the others that have tried the sistem, what do you honestly think about it??
I think that the guy should say something to clear up our minds...
And by the way if he's winning i'm happy for him

Regards
Ivo

Hi Ivo,

If you look at the responses from those who carried out live testing with Jobsaboba, it's very clear indeed what the verdict is. Instead of exercising patience and respect, a number of individuals now seem bent on crossing a moral and principled line by publishing Jobsaboba's source code on this forum. Even if the coder owns the code, it's still wrong in principle to do such a thing. That's how low these guys have stooped by trying to goad Jobsaboba into accepting their challenge. I've already expressed my view in the challenge thread: that I'm surprised at their actions. They've lost control of themselves to the point where they don't seem to understand that what they are doing is WRONG and unacceptable.

Jobsoboba has a completed concept and a completed working system. It isn't something that requires any further testing. It's not something that is at a beta stage of development. He's not asking people to test it for improvement because he has already proven it himself. And yes, I believe Jobsaboba has been winning for two years.

If respect is shown then things might change. Jobsaboba means well. Don't disrespect him.

- Rouland

Why do u speak for him.. BTW I didnt posted source I would just send it to Sam if he would want it, because he was actualy the first who should be in team..
Staying quiet doesnt make sense

Quoted from Boo_Ray

Why do u speak for him.. BTW I didnt posted source I would just send it to Sam if he would want it, because he was actualy the first who should be in team..
Staying quiet doesnt make sense

I don't have a problem speaking my mind unreservedly whenever I see anyone being treated badly and disrespectfully. Do you?

BTW, I haven't called any names. Who the cap fits let them wear it.

Quietly observing people can be very enlightening and valuable when considering a decision in relation to those very people.

- Rouland